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WJK59
USA
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 Posted - 23 Jul 2010 : 05:34:39
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Well, I'm finally up and tinkering with LP - I've managed to set up and save a few Projects, in which I've assigned two controller keyboards, outputting to a Native Instruments Audio Kontrol 1. My problem is that when I re-open some of the projects (which I've actually named for song settings, re-opening a different Project for each song setting), I seem to have lost a lot of the info I thought was saved with the Project. I find that either my controller assignments have been swapped, OR or all VSTs are now sounding from both keyboards, instead of maintaining the settings I assigned.
I'm pretty sure this has to do with my lack of proper understanding of the actual difference between Projects, Snapshots, Workspacesand Cue Lists - and exactly how and when to use each. I've read through the manual, but to be honest, it's a bit sparse on some info and the various terms aren't giving me any clarity as to how I should be using each. I'm feeling more than a bit dense about understanding when to use each. (Boy do I miss analog - I've been away from this stuff for WAY too long - since before MIDI!)
Can any of you experienced users provide me a little gentle guidance that will allow me to properly set up VSTs for different songs, with controller assignments for each song (and maybe allowing for some minor program changes within songs), then to save and recall them when playing live? I know this sounds like a recap of what's written in the manual, but it's just not sinking in.
Thanks in advance for any help!
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nikolai
Norway
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Posted - 23 Jul 2010 : 20:57:59
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Hi
Loading projects, and midi patch messed up sounds like a bug to me. should be loaded the right way (asuming the midi devices are present)
sorry the manual could not help you more. Any feedback on the manual is great. (it's kind of hard to explain the right things when you know the program so well)
Anyway as you might have figured out:
Projects:
Saves everything to a file. when opened, all plugins are loaded all patching is done etc.
Snapshots:
Bellong to each plugin. it saves all the settings of the plugin.
Note that it only saves the parameters related to the VST plugin it self, no midi, routing, gain etc.
Workspaces:
Are used to save the position/visiblilty of the different windows.
One workspace could show all reverbs, one all synths. etc.
Cue lists:
Are made up of Cues, that again are mad up of cue actions.
These actions automate LP.
So one cue could contain ex. three actions.
1 Recall snapshot X on plugin A
2 Patch Midi input on plugin A
3 Turn plugin a On
I'll get back to you on a more detailed guide later, but here is one way:
http://ifoundasound.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=113
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WJK59
USA
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Posted - 24 Jul 2010 : 00:18:27
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Hmmm..yes, the same midi devices were present, but were wither swapped around from the way I initially set them up, or were transmitting to all VSTs on all channels. Since I've got patch changes for each song (and sometimes within songs), and as I may be using different VSTs for different songs, it doesn't sound like my approach of setting up a "Project" for each song was SO far off base - particularly if snapshots don't store patches, etc. Or am I mistaken that a patch selected within a VST (e.g. - NI B4) wouldn't be stored within a snapshot for that VST, even if that patch CHANGE could be controlled via midi?
My patches themselves were maintained when re-opening the projects -but the controller assignments and routing were messed up.
As for your description of Projects, Snapshots, Workspaces and Cue Lists - your info is helpful. Am I misguided in thinking that I'd be able to set up a cue list that changes the loaded Project (in my case, song) as an action? So if I had five different projects (with only one setup per song), would it make sense to set up a cue list to essentially scroll through the five projects sequentially?
Thanks for your help! |
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mattes
Germany
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Posted - 24 Jul 2010 : 09:28:25
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| my midi controller settings had been messed up when i did plug the devices in different usb ports than those originally used (while building the projekt). |
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WJK59
USA
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Posted - 24 Jul 2010 : 14:10:39
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I considered that possibility - and it's likely that I did plug into different usb ports, since the laptop I'm plugging into to run LP is also the one I take back and forth to work - so I have to set up and then unplug again on a nightly basis. I'm not sure that should really make the difference, though, since the USB devices SHOULD be recognized by the computer. For what it's worth, I'm using M-Audio KeyRig49 and KeyRig88es controllers. I was also thinking about picking up a USB hub, since I'm running out of ports. Maybe I need to mark each input on the hub as to what device I'm running to it?
My other problem is that it seems that I need to have everything plugged into the computer before I boot up for LP to work properly. I can't plug in the NI Kontrol 1 or either of the boards after I've turned the computer on and still have them work properly in LP, even though they're essentially PNP. |
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nikolai
Norway
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Posted - 24 Jul 2010 : 23:38:50
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Ok, these problems are on the to do list.
I'll explain the issue; LP gets a list of midi devices from windows. Now the problem is that LP just use the device numbers to identify the MIDI device. Like:
1."MIDI-Bob"
2."MIDI joe" The problem with USB devices, is if "Joe" is connected before "Bob" They would switch numbers, and the patch gets messed up in LP.
So to fix this I need to make LP look for the correct device NAME not the number when a project is loaded.
On the plug and play part. Yes the devices are looked for on program start up, so you need to restart the program to get the new devices. You should not need to reboot the computer though. (unless the hardware needs it)
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WJK59
USA
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Posted - 25 Jul 2010 : 14:26:10
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Thanks for the input Nikolai. Wow...so it sounds like I'm not entirely daft.
As for working with LP itself, could you just comment on my other question - If I had five different "projects" (with only one setup per song), would it make sense to set up a cue list to essentially scroll through the five projects sequentially? This assumes that some Projects may have different VSTs loaded than others do.
Or is there a better, more streamlined way to switch between settings in a set list that I'm not grasping?
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WJK59
USA
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Posted - 25 Jul 2010 : 14:29:55
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Nikolai -
One more question - Your explanation of usb name-swapping (based on order of hookup) makes sense - but does it explain why LPs settings would go from individual controllers each operating different VSTs within a project to BOTH controllers transmitting to all VSTs within the program (as opposed to just swapping them)? |
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plepue
USA
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Posted - 26 Jul 2010 : 16:47:23
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If you have enough memory in your computer or you are not using that many different plugins, you should consider loading all plugins that you may use into a single project. Then use cue lists to switch between songs. Each cue would be a different song and the the Cue Actions for each Cue would change the patches, midi settings, snapshots, levels, etc for each song. This way, you can scroll through a cue list quite rapidly with no load times. Although all the vst's will be loaded, each cue will turn the ones on or off that you want to use for that song.
You could also create cues that trigger your mid song changes as well. This would be the most efficient way to do it if you have enough power and not too many plugins.
However, if you are limited on memory and power and/or use tons of different vst's, then you probably have to do what you are doing and load a new Project for different songs. |
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WJK59
USA
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Posted - 27 Jul 2010 : 00:38:48
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Thanks plepue - I may try to see if your suggestion will work for me, although I'll have to "rebuild" my set list using cues. It'd be a lot more straight-forward if I was only using a single keyboard controller, but since I'm using two, I'm still worried that the assignments may be screwed up when I initially launch the Project in LP.
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nikolai
Norway
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Posted - 27 Jul 2010 : 00:53:07
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Nikolai -
One more question - Your explanation of usb name-swapping (based on order of hookup) makes sense - but does it explain why LPs settings would go from individual controllers each operating different VSTs within a project to BOTH controllers transmitting to all VSTs within the program (as opposed to just swapping them)?
Yes this is the 1000$ question. On a sound job in the mountains now. I'll check this and fix it in a couple of days.
plepue: Nice, thats the way to do it! |
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plepue
USA
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Posted - 27 Jul 2010 : 20:32:51
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Another big benefit of the method I suggested is the ability to use cues to fire cues. This is how I set it up:
I created a Cue List that I named "Master Setlist". In this cue list I created all my cues and actions for each and every song. I named each cue the name of the Song. So, Cue 1 is "Tainted Love" and Cue 2 is "Take On Me" etc. I Play in several bands and have hundreds of songs in my Master Cue List all sorted alphabetically.
I then created a new Cue List for my 80s band, Freeze Frame, for a typical casino show with two 90 minute sets. I named this Cue List "Freeze Frame - 2x90". Next, I created a new cue for every song I would be playing that night but the new cue only has one action. That action is the "Fire another Cue" action. So, this new Cue List will now have 1 cue in it that I named " - Tainted Love - " (I added the hyphens so I know that this cue is not he original but rather an alias. That cue is set to fire the "Tainted Love" cue off the Master Cue List. I then repeat this process until I have an alias for each and every cue on my master cue list in the new cue list.
I know this seems like a lot of work, but the benefits are huge. First, every new cue list I want to create, I simply add a cue list, rename it for whatever it is (e.g. Freeze Frame 4x45, for a typical 4, 45 minute sets show) and copy (by holding Alt and Dragging) all the alias cues over to it from the previous setlist. Do Not Copy the Master cue list. You can easily create new cue lists for differentl typical setups or show and you can reorder each cue list into new sets simply by dragging the cues (songs) to new positions.
Also, and most important for me, is that if I ever change or modify a cue, I simply modify the cue in the Master Cue List and it is instantly updated in all other setlists that I have created. Now I can have many different setlists with different songs and different bands but I only need to tweak settings on one Master list.
In addition, I have created some "blank" cues that essentially Mute everything, including my outboard gear. I named these Cues "Set One", Set Two", "Encore", and I can place them within my cue lists at the appropriate spot as simple markers. It takes me about 10 minutes before a show to reorder a setlist of over 50 songs becasue I start from these templates and simply drag and drop any changes.
You would then save the entire setup as a Project. When playing live, you open the Project at the beginning of the show, choose the Cue List you want to use, Arm It and then advance from song to song nearly instantly (I use a footswitch) using the spacebar or any other assignable controller.
Love It.
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mattes
Germany
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Posted - 28 Jul 2010 : 09:37:53
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you seem to use LP very much on stage...
did it ever hang or crash on cue firing? or does it "just work like it should"?
what is your PC setup? 
i ask cause i do not really trust LP yet for stage use....at least with my setup. i use NI Reaktor but there seems to be a issue with cue changes and i try to find a way...
thx
acer timelineX 3820, (win 7 64bit, 4gig ram, intel core i5 ), m-audio mobile pre, roland HPD15, korg nanopad. |
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WJK59
USA
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Posted - 28 Jul 2010 : 13:55:13
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Plepue -
How do you have your footswitch for changes hooked up? What are you connecting it to?
You would then save the entire setup as a Project. When playing live, you open the Project at the beginning of the show, choose the Cue List you want to use, Arm It and then advance from song to song nearly instantly (I use a footswitch) using the spacebar or any other assignable controller. |
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plepue
USA
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Posted - 28 Jul 2010 : 21:53:08
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I use a Dell Inspiron 1545, a very basic laptop. Admittedly, I do not rely on LP much for audio use. I do run some occasional samples and effects through LP and I have each song connected to a metronome vst as well. Primarily, though I use LP to send midi cue info. You can read about my setup at www.pjearly.com/myrig. I get most of my sounds live right off my Korg Triton's though. I have the footswitch connected to a Triton and midi out to the computer to trigger song changes. You can assign any key or midi input to advance triggers using the midi control map.
I have never had any issues of instability or crashing, but again, I do not rely heavily on LP for my synth sounds. I perform about twice a week with it. Each song (Cue) does the following:
1. Sets a tempo for the metronome which is output to the drummer only for reference.
2. Sets the sample or effect if needed on a vst via snapshots.
3. Sends a Midi PC message to my Korg to the appropriate patch.
4. Sends a Midi PC message to my POD X3L for my guitar patch (or mutes it).
5. Sends Midi CC messages to my effects rack to change different effects if needed for a song.
6. Sends Midi PC message to my lead guitarist's POD X3L to set his patch.
7. Send midi messages to my DMX controller to change lighting setups.
So, each cue is rather lengthy but I have a template that I use and just change what I need for each new song. It is a fantastic main controller for my setup. I still don't trust any computer/software completely for sound generation live. Its the next logical step for me but I will want a dedicated computer more powerful than what I currently use. |
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WJK59
USA
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Posted - 29 Jul 2010 : 00:15:16
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Thanks, plepue -
I was curious if you were running some sort of USB pedal directly to your computer, as opposed to through one of your hardware keyboards.
You're light years ahead of me in your knowledge and use of LP. At this point, I just want to get started with my setup the proper way out of the starting gate, so I don't have to start reconstructing everything again. Hopefully I'll know more when Nikolai has a chance to respond about the weird controller-swapping and all-transmit issue I experienced.
I just ordered a new USB hub for my laptop, so I figure that if a bug fix isn't incorporated yet, I'll just have to mark where I'm plugging in each USB controller and stay consistent with the hookup, in order to avoid the controller swapping issue.
WK |
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mattes
Germany
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Posted - 29 Jul 2010 : 07:32:44
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quote:
Originally posted by WJK59
I just ordered a new USB hub for my laptop, so I figure that if a bug fix isn't incorporated yet, I'll just have to mark where I'm plugging in each USB controller and stay consistent with the hookup, in order to avoid the controller swapping issue.
WK
yes, works for me.
would not use a audio interface on a hub - clicks foreseeable.
but midi and dongles should be ok. |
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mattes
Germany
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Posted - 29 Jul 2010 : 07:45:58
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quote:
Originally posted by plepue
I use a Dell Inspiron 1545, a very ....
thanx pleque for the report on using LP on stage.
i need to use it as the only FX rack to run all my audio through.
so if it crashes, there will be silence... or annoying noises ... 
a bit afraid of that |
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WJK59
USA
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Posted - 29 Jul 2010 : 13:05:28
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mattes -
I know this is starting to stray from the original topic, but it's still really all about how I initially start to rebuild my setup.
I expect to receive the USB hub today. Why do you suggest not using an interface on the hub? I haven't had the best results using ASIO4ALL, so the interface seems like a better performing solution. Would a better solution be to plug the keyboard controllers only into the hub, and running the interface directly into an open USB port directly on the computer, or are you suggesting eliminating the interface altogether?
WK
would not use a audio interface on a hub - clicks foreseeable.
but midi and dongles should be ok. |
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mattes
Germany
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Posted - 30 Jul 2010 : 08:55:27
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yes, a bit off topic, but:
i would plug the audio interface in a discrete (direct) usb port on the computer. if you run it on the hub, the audio stream might be interruptet when another device on the hub needs bandwidth to send data through the same physical usb port as the audio interface. because audio is "realtime" stream (needs all bandwidth all the time) it will then be interrupted. midi only sends very little data at a very slow data rate, and the data is not so time critical, so it is no problem if there is a (very) short interruption in data stream. so, yes, audio direct, keyboards/controller on the hub.
asio4all is a great thing to use on board sound cards with asio software, but still the latency of on board chips is way bigger than on a dedicated asio card (apart from lower sound quality on bord). and if you use audio input, too, it doubles the latency (= processing time). you will always feel the delay whyle playing live through a computer. some asio cards (only a few with usb interface) can go down as low as 64 samples latency on windows, most can handle 128 samples buffersize (depending on the power of the computer and the size of the projekt), which is well usable for a tight midi playing (as long as you are no classical pianist or so...). (64 samples buffer size @ 44100 Hz sampl freq is like 1.5 miliseconds delay).
hope this helps.
regards
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nikolai
Norway
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Posted - 30 Jul 2010 : 11:10:18
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(64 samples buffer size @ 44100 Hz sampl freq is like 1.5 miliseconds delay).
To put this in perspective this is the same as 0.5 meters (1.6 feet)
So 5 ms would create the same delay as moving the speakers 1.5 meters futher away. |
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mattes
Germany
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Posted - 30 Jul 2010 : 13:41:22
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| problem starts to get noticeable at around 256 samples buffer...for my opinion. still usable, cause you can play ahead of the beat and get used on the timing. getting a usb soundcard needs lots of investigations (and testing). depending on usage (live or recording). and wallet :-). i am a RME fan... (no surreptitious advertising) |
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WJK59
USA
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Posted - 31 Jul 2010 : 04:18:36
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Mattes-
OK - I understand. I was under the impression that you were suggesting I not use an audio interface at all if using a USB hub, whether plugging it into the hub or going directly into a dedicated usb port on the computer. I've got no problem going direct into a computer port with the interface.
Nikolai -
Any new insights into the controller name recogition (vs number) issue, or should I just plan on labelling the ports on the hub I plug into and staying consistent with where I plug in each controller? |
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nikolai
Norway
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Posted - 02 Aug 2010 : 17:57:23
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Originally posted by WJK59
Mattes-
OK - I understand. I was under the impression that you were suggesting I not use an audio interface at all if using a USB hub, whether plugging it into the hub or going directly into a dedicated usb port on the computer. I've got no problem going direct into a computer port with the interface.
Nikolai -
Any new insights into the controller name recogition (vs number) issue, or should I just plan on labelling the ports on the hub I plug into and staying consistent with where I plug in each controller?
Please check if this works:
http://ifoundasound.com/liveprofessor/downloads/LiveProfessor_MIDIfix.rar
It should fix your issue. But only when dealing with midi to the plugins. This does not do anything for the Controller Map or the Cue lists MIDI setup.
If this fixes your issue, then I'll apply the same code to all places where midi devices are selected. |
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WJK59
USA
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Posted - 02 Aug 2010 : 19:16:17
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Thanks, Nikolai -
I'll give it a shot.
Walter |
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WJK59
USA
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Posted - 03 Aug 2010 : 05:50:26
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Nikolai -
It's difficult for me to tell how or whether the patch is working as you intended or not. LP is telling me that there's a missing midi device when launching projects - but that may be because I may have had my Kurzwiel hooked up via midi directly to the NI Audio Kontrol 1 when I first programmed the various Projects/Songs, which I now need to recreate and set up within a cue)- even though I never assigned it (the Kurzweil) to drive any plugins. Everything else seems to work ok (although I get no sound when trying to transmit on any channel other than Channel 1. Channel 2, when selected via midi, appears to give me no output sound, regardless of the input device I select. I can't select midi channels on the controller - just in the software. |
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nikolai
Norway
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Posted - 03 Aug 2010 : 08:55:29
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Originally posted by WJK59
Nikolai -
It's difficult for me to tell how or whether the patch is working as you intended or not. LP is telling me that there's a missing midi device when launching projects - but that may be because I may have had my Kurzwiel hooked up via midi directly to the NI Audio Kontrol 1 when I first programmed the various Projects/Songs, which I now need to recreate and set up within a cue)- even though I never assigned it (the Kurzweil) to drive any plugins. Everything else seems to work ok (although I get no sound when trying to transmit on any channel other than Channel 1. Channel 2, when selected via midi, appears to give me no output sound, regardless of the input device I select. I can't select midi channels on the controller - just in the software.
Ahh.. yes there is a bug in the new system, see it now. Sorry
I'll work some more on it today |
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nikolai
Norway
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Posted - 03 Aug 2010 : 11:40:03
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Ok.
This should be a lot better:
http://ifoundasound.com/LiveProfessor/Downloads/LiveProfessor_MIDIfix2.rar
The message you got on loading projects had nothing to do with the Kurzwiel. It was just a bug that made that message pop up.
It should work like this now:
*All USB midi devices must be connected on program start up.
*Devices are no longer identified by their "Windows number" but by their name.
*If a project is loaded and the device is not found, you will see a warning message telling you the name of the missing device. The plugin's midi device is then set to "Not found".
If you connect the device, restart LP and open the project the connection is remade.
There is one downside to this system though;
If you only use one USB midi device at a time, but change between two or more devices you will have some minor inconvenience.
Let's say you have an m-audio keyboard at home and a Roland keyboard at work and you move your lap top to and from work.
If you set up your project at home using the m-audio keyboard, and move the project to work, it will say that the m-audio keyboard is missing and you will have to manualy patch all the plugins to the Roland keyboard.
Maybe I should make some kind of system where if one device is missing you can choose a device to replace it.
Well, see if this works the way I planned first. Unplug your usb devices and change their ports etc. see if you get any hiccups.
Thanks for your patience
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WJK59
USA
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Posted - 03 Aug 2010 : 14:11:45
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Nikolai-
Thanks - this sounds like it's heading in the right direction - at least for my purposes. As a general feature, you're right, the ability to name an alternate controller for a missing one might be a good thing - but it's not something that's critical for my particular needs at the moment.
As for the midi channel comment I made in my last post - scratch that - I pulled out the M-Audio manual and found that it defaults to midi channel 1, which I have to override in edit mode, since there's no visible hardware control for the midi channel change. I'll have to play with it to see if it reverts back to channel 1 every time it's turned off (which would be a bit of a pain). Per plepue's comment, I'm thinking it may be straight forward to assign a different channel to each of my 2 controllers.
I appreciate the work you're doing, and am looking forward to seeing the new patch and how this all works.
Is there a fast, easy way to take the various "projects/songs" I've already set up and to convert them for use in a cue list? I realize I'm going to have to start a new project with ALL the needed plug-ins loaded at the start, so I'm not sure I don't need to build the cue list and various plug-in settings from scratch. |
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nikolai
Norway
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Posted - 03 Aug 2010 : 14:17:25
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About moving your settings to a new project.
There will be a "Export snapshot to file" feature very soon.
So you could then export the settings from a plugin in project A and import it in project B. |
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WJK59
USA
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Posted - 03 Aug 2010 : 17:13:34
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| That sounds like a useful feature - but since I've got a show to do in less than 3 weeks, it sounds like I'll be creating my cue list the "old fashioned" way! |
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plepue
USA
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Posted - 03 Aug 2010 : 21:18:40
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This is a disaster to me. I have not tried this new download but I cannot possibly change hundreds of cue actions (remember several actions for each cue) to reset the midi device. I use one device at home and one on the road and I have another backup. If it will no longer recognize the lone midi device plugged in. Hopefully I am misunderstanding on how this is going to work or there will be a way to toggle between these two different methods. If however, I cannot switch midi devices without resetting every cue, this software will become useless to me.
I could always just stay in Beta . . . |
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WJK59
USA
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Posted - 04 Aug 2010 : 00:01:30
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I'll defer to Nikolai to respond to your valid concerns, since I still know barely enough to get out of my own way with LP at the moment, but it sounded like the potential downside of this approach and the need to address it with alternate controller naming was going to be addressed.
Maybe I should make some kind of system where if one device is missing you can choose a device to replace it.
Well, see if this works the way I planned first |
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nikolai
Norway
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Posted - 04 Aug 2010 : 09:15:18
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Originally posted by plepue
This is a disaster to me. I have not tried this new download but I cannot possibly change hundreds of cue actions (remember several actions for each cue) to reset the midi device. I use one device at home and one on the road and I have another backup. If it will no longer recognize the lone midi device plugged in. Hopefully I am misunderstanding on how this is going to work or there will be a way to toggle between these two different methods. If however, I cannot switch midi devices without resetting every cue, this software will become useless to me.
I could always just stay in Beta . . .
Chill plepue, I got you covered. Just don't download this test file. It was just meant for WJK59 to test he's USB issues.
Anyway this problem has been with LP since the start, (and was also written about in the article in Keyboard-mag). So it needs to be fixed.
But you have a good point, and the way I plan to make this system is;
When you open a project and a device is not found, LP says so and asks if you want to replace this device with another device.
You click yes and select some other device,
All instances of that device (also in cues) are replaced with the one you selected.
Now I could also make a check box in the midi options to bypass this whole thing so you don't need to click the replace box. (just use the old "system") This would work in your case with only one device all the time, cause the device number will always be 0 so it could be handy. (?)
If we don't make these changes imagine your setup if you down the line want to add a second controller to your rig. it will be absolutly nightmare if windows should decide to switch the ID's and you would need to go through all cues and check that the right controller was selected.
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plepue
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Posted - 04 Aug 2010 : 21:25:10
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| Sorry for the panic. I appreciate that you will make this work for both circumstances. I will just not download any new versions until the issue is addressed. |
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WJK59
USA
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Posted - 05 Aug 2010 : 05:21:31
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Nikolai -
After loading the patch while still at work the other day, I launched LP (with no devices attached) and sure enough, it prompted me for the controller keyboards by name. When I plugged everything in at home tonight - including the controller keyboards, it just prompted me for that missing Midi-3 device again (although not the controllers, which were present)!
I'll try again in the AM and will let you know if anything changes.
Thanks again for the efforts.
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nikolai
Norway
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Posted - 05 Aug 2010 : 13:09:57
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Originally posted by WJK59
Nikolai -
After loading the patch while still at work the other day, I launched LP (with no devices attached) and sure enough, it prompted me for the controller keyboards by name. When I plugged everything in at home tonight - including the controller keyboards, it just prompted me for that missing Midi-3 device again (although not the controllers, which were present)!
I'll try again in the AM and will let you know if anything changes.
Thanks again for the efforts.
Walter
Did It say:
"'The MIDI input "-3" that was connected to "pluginname" can't be found. Please connect it and restart LiveProfessor'"
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Make sure you load the project with all devices connected and save the project. that should take care of that. Since the last version this error should not be possible. |
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WJK59
USA
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Posted - 05 Aug 2010 : 14:22:09
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Nikolai -
Yep - that's what it said. I'm wondering if it's still referring to the Kurzweil I had plugged in when I initially created the project, although I've since saved it a few times without that keyboard hooked up. It prevents the plugin from loading until I click it. I wouldn't worry too much about it for the moment, since I'm going to have to try to rebuild a new project tonight with all the plugins initially loaded - and I'll do that without the Kurzweil hooked up.
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Did It say:
"'The MIDI input "-3" that was connected to "pluginname" can't be found. Please connect it and restart LiveProfessor'"
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Make sure you load the project with all devices connected and save the project. that should take care of that. Since the last version this error should not be possible.
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WJK59
USA
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Posted - 08 Aug 2010 : 17:37:36
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Nikolai -
I finally managed to re-compose my sound programming and cue list in a new project list - the patch you sent for naming the instruments works well - thanks! I am having a lot of glitchy problems with computer freeze-ups and occasionally one of the controllers suddenly doesn't transmit (which is pretty worrisome for my upcoming show), but I don't think those are LP issues necessarily - they're probably more related to my computer not being optimized for music.
Thanks for all your effort! |
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nikolai
Norway
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Posted - 09 Aug 2010 : 08:37:58
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I am having a lot of glitchy problems with computer freeze-ups and occasionally one of the controllers suddenly doesn't transmit (which is pretty worrisome for my upcoming show), but I don't think those are LP issues necessarily - they're probably more related to my computer not being optimized for music.
Is this new in the "Fix version" or have you had it all along?
Does it happen at any specific point, like clicking on a button or running a cue, or are these random audio glitches? |
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WJK59
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Posted - 11 Aug 2010 : 06:31:16
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Originally posted by nikolai
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I am having a lot of glitchy problems with computer freeze-ups and occasionally one of the controllers suddenly doesn't transmit (which is pretty worrisome for my upcoming show), but I don't think those are LP issues necessarily - they're probably more related to my computer not being optimized for music.
Is this new in the "Fix version" or have you had it all along?
Does it happen at any specific point, like clicking on a button or running a cue, or are these random audio glitches?
No, I don't think it's related to the patch, although sometimes LP freezes up and try to restart it, but it won't seem to lauch (but it appears tha multiple instances have launched it I view it in Windows Task Manager - but the computer won't let me "end process" for any of the running instances. I've also occasionally gotten a "DeviceNotifier not responding" message when trying to shut down after running LP.
I have to believe that most of my problems are related to all the stuff running in the background on my computer, which is set up for network use at work. I'd love to figure out how to create a second boot mode to bypass a lot of the stuff, although I'm not sure how straightforward that is in WinXP Pro. |
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